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This airline handles both cargo and passengers both domestic and international. We have only one salary of which I cannot get upper management to commit to a salary range. I am a member of the ADF. I've been in the dispatch function of operations since 1963. I've been associated with the DC-3 through the B747 aircraft. (Stories, ya, I have. They would fill a book).
I appreciate anything you might be able to do assisting my situation.
The ADF is an all volunteer organization (all working dispatchers) and in accordance with our bylaws is an advocacy organization for working dispatchers and not a labor organization. Below are links to the two unions that represent most of the organized dispatchers.
http://www.twu.org http://www.pafca.org
You should be able to find links on these sites to contact the local union officials who can provide those answers.
I hope this will be of help to you.
I have read the web site information and have gone through the packet and am looking for some of the benefits in order to get more people to join. I am having a hard time selling ADF to other dispatchers. If you could please send me what some of the benefits are I would be able to get more people to join.
I guess in a nut shell, ADF does 2 or 3 main things.
1. Get the profession of the Dispatcher “out there”. Many organizations have a vision of what they believe the future of the aviation industry should look like. In many of these FAA, NTSB & NASA meetings, it is not uncommon to have an
ocean of FAA/ATC , pilots & one Dispatcher in attendance. The Dispatcher many times has changed the course of these meetings by simply stating.... "But what about joint responsibility?"
These visions will progress into decisions and become reality made by those groups that were represented. The question becomes "where will the Dispatcher be in the vision"?
It is apparent the future of the Aircraft Dispatcher is being developed now. We must ensure that we remain a STRONG force in the "safety triad" of the pilot, ATC and the Dispatcher.
ADF is the only voice representing the Dispatch profession in today's airline industry.
Who do you think changed the course of what the pilots were then calling "Free Flight" .... there was no dispatcher in the original plan until an American Airlines Dispatcher who was attending for ADF on his day off stood up and said, Hey, what about driftdown?
Did you know that the first crack of the "Spring 2000 Program" (new ATC procedures implemented in April) stated the dispatcher will NOT change the flight plan within 45 minutes of Push time. Then a dispatcher said, "what if a pack goes inop at push time and we need to change the FL, we HAVE to be able to change it to be legal.
2. Training, Training, Training! I have learned more from the exchange at the meetings, Newsletters, Position papers, than I do in my recurrent training. Plus, I take stuff back to my training manager to use....and he likes it.
Did you know there is going to be a new RMK to appear on the ASOS sites for ice accumulation? We had the paper work from the FAA in
Chicago .
Can you launch or continue your aircraft if the FT is forecast below landing minimums if you currently have RVR? See related "fuel survey(s) " on the web site.
Can you land if the CFR is busy with a trash fire?
If you have RVR lights on only 3/4 of the runway, can you land?
3. Look at "Accomplishments" to see what we do...there is a lot, but you'll get a better idea. Working on the "top 10 dispatch issues" to forward to the FAA/NASA for consideration and to conduct studies for a possible answer.
4. Dispatch Opportunities shared (see employment section on this web site - members only)
It's all about raising the bar for the Dispatch Profession and making sure we will prepared to step up to it.
Well, that's just my opinion. There may not be a lot of immediate, in hand benefits (except for the Job Opportunities) .. the majority of our work is for the next few years and for the future... where the dispatcher will be/should be in the mix in 5 - 10 years...
Try to make the Symposium. It's the big one. Then, let us know your airlines views, concerns and where we, as a non labor, volunteer organizations, need to be putting our limited energies...better yet, jump in!
If you want more opinions, you can reach the board with the e-mail adfboard@disaptcher.org
I am a senior in high school and I am writing a research paper on aviation safety. I am required to interview someone with a credible background on this subject whom I may quote in my paper. I would appreciate it if at least one person could E-mail me with any answers he or she might have to the following questions. Please remember that I will need the name of the person and a brief description of his or her occupation and/or credentials that qualify him or her as a credible source.
-What types of routine checks are performed on a daily basis to ensure the safety of all passengers on commercial airplanes?
-What are some actions that have been taken (laws, programs, etc.) as a result of airlines' desire to support a proactive policy rather than an entirely reactive policy concerning the anticipation of future accidents?
-What evidence could support the idea that airlines offer a safer means of transportation than automobiles?
-Do any airlines provide significantly safer travel than their competitors?
-What organizations have made the greatest contributions to commercial aviation safety?
-What are some examples of new technology that have/will reduce the risk of accident?
ADF is always interested in assisting anyone who is interested in learning about dispatchers. However, it seems the information you need would best be provided by government statistics. Obviously, since ADF members work for various airlines, we would be reluctant to name one airline as 'safer' than another. The federal government keeps statistics on all of that, of course, so that is where you can go for help. Also, when comparing air travel to car travel, it is difficult to find a common measurement. Do you use number of trips, or number of people carried, type of road vs. type of aircraft operation? Very tricky stuff; bottom line is that being on an FAR Part 121 air carrier is safer than being in your own home.
The maintenance requirements for Part 121 aircraft are all spelled out in the regulations, and would take a large book to outline. The safety statistics would take months to read through and breakdown into something that would be useful in a high school paper.
The best suggestion I can make is that you contact your elected representative and request the information from that source. A quick search for Congress on the internet will get you to the House, and from there you can find the Subcommittee on Aviation, or the Department of Transportation. Those are the most credible sources available.
Do you know of any Spanish Dispatch resources?
For Spanish Speaking Dispatchers….
A todos los despachadores hispano-parlantes, visten el siguiente club de YAHOO.. http://mx.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/despachadordevuelos (to all Spanish-speaking dispatchers, visit the following yahoo club).
I am or was about to embark on a journey to become a flight dispatcher. My question is, due to the recent events of
9/11/01 and the outcome with many airlines, how is this affecting the airline dispatchers? (Meaning, are they being laid off in great numbers or is everyone still employed) Would you recommend pursuit of the dispatch license at this time? (Next Month) What is your forecast for dispatch future employment in light of the current layoffs with airlines? Thank you for any professional insight you may have.
Currently, between 250 - 300 dispatchers are being furloughed. The job market has seen better days. If there is not an improvement, more may be furloughed.
The simplest I can come to for an equation to predict the aviation job market is something like:
Airlines making a profit + adding flights + buying aircraft = good job market
Travel down or higher fuel prices - airline profit margin dropping = not a good job market.
Dispatching is a fantastic job...if it's what you want to do in life and you are pursuing it for the profession and not the benefits or pay and can wait a period of time to be hired as a dispatcher, I would continue it. Otherwise, I would think it through.
However, ADF does forward Job Opportunities to our current membership. I do not find your name in the ADF Database, but if you'd like to join ADF and receive notification, go to ww.dispatcher.org and select "Membership". We do forward job information to current membership.
If you would like to have other dispatch announcements of meetings, etc e-mailed to you, go to www.dispatcher.org, scroll to the bottom of the home page and locate this information box and enter your e-mail. You will join more than 500 dispatch enthusiasts receiving this information.
I've been a dispatcher with an airlines since 1990. There seems to be a problem in salaries of the dispatchers. I still have not seen a progression chart of the salary range since I've been with this company.
Is it possible to get an idea of the salary ranges of the following airlines so I can hopefully get the ball rolling on this subject?
I've been reading a lot of information about aircraft dispatchers and I'll be signing up for airline grounds school shortly. I would like for someone who is currently in this profession to e-mail me ( advice, pros, cons, other training I should have, job market) just a little more info that I should also consider. Thanks!
I will try to answer your questions to the point and from my experience.
Pro's - Best job in the world, if it is your nitch and you know, understand and respect your dispatch certificate.
Con's - Shift work ( midnights ) rotating shifts (weekends). Kills your body clock....(mine always has to be re-wound)
Training - You HAVE to understand weather, aircraft performance, ATC, Aircraft systems. You only get a light dusting of that in a dispatch school. (You will have to study on your own)
Job Market. The closest I can come to an equation for an outlook on the job market is something like the following:
Airlines Making a profit + buying aircraft = good job market
High fuel prices –Airline profit margin dropping = not a good job market.
It is a volatile market /industry.
To learn more, you can order the ADF Video that depicts the job a little better than I can here. See the ADF Store
I’m retiring from the military march of next year and I’m interested in becoming a airline dispatcher, my question is I will be 50 years old then and wonder if any airlines would hire someone as a dispatcher at that age? I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions. I’m a private pilot and have been flying for 27 years.
If you would like additional information on FAA approved Schools, please feel free to visit the “Schools” page on the ADF Web site.
Your question is a common one and for that reason I saved the following response from an ADF Member…
There is an old tale about the 50 year old who always wanted to be a (-------- fill in the blank -------) but he told his friends: "It takes 5 years to become one, and in 5 years I will be 55 years old!
One of his smarter friends asked him how old he would be in 5 years if he did NOT become a (----- fill in the blank -----)
There are no guarantees in life, but each profession needs the best it can find. "Old" guys do get hired... if they are worth hiring. The fact that I am 51 years old is not a factor... it is simply a business decision on the company's part. And based on my history, my knowledge, my particular skills and my network of connections.... I was hired.
You are in a position to decide what you want to be, then become it. Success or failure is sometimes out of our control, but no journey begins without a first step.
I am working in a major international airline as flight operations officer/customer services officer for last 8 years and now want to go for FAA dispatcher license. Please advice how to go about it.
I would begin by going to www.dispatcher.org and selecting "Schools with a Dispatch curriculum". This site has links to several schools and you can also get a listing of FAA approved all schools.
There is a link provided to these schools and their e-mail if you would like to ask them questions.
I am working in Airlines as a flight dispatcher. Now I am planning to join for the dispatcher course in United States . So, I would like to request to all who know the best Flight Dispatcher school in USA Thanks in advance for your kind cooperation.
ADF cannot recommend any specific school.
I would recommendation you make sure they have been approved by the FAA. You can find a list of those approved on the link below.
http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/afs220/afs220.htm
There are some that are better than others, I would recommend you contact the ones you are interested in and ask your question above.
I'm curious about obtaining my dispatcher certificate. I'm a commercial pilot and A&P. I do not have my ATP. Would any of my previous experience/certificates help towards earning a Dispatcher certificate? Thanks for your answers...
Your previous experience will definately help towards your Dispatcher License per FAR 65.61 paragraph d.
For the purpose of completing an approved course, a student may substitute previous experience or training for a portion of the minimum 200 hours of training. The course operator determines the number of hours of credit based on an evaluation of the experience or training to determine if it is comparable to portions of the approved course curriculum. The credit allowed, including the total hours and the basis for it, must be placed in the student's record required by 65.70(a) of this part.
My company is an ADF Sponsor. Is it possible for me to get a username and password to the website. I know we are a sponsor but not sure how/if we qualify.
Sponsors/vendors do not get the same benefits as a member with their Sponsorship and a member does not get the same benefits a Sponsor gets.The Sponsor gets the newsletter, the newsletter ad, and article, website links, and website ads per their Sponsorship level, a booth, and entry with no registration fee.
The only people that get passwords are actual ADF members. The sponsors/vendors that are interested in becoming members and receiving the member benefits are welcome to join as a member which is $40.00 per year.
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